Dr. Susan Gilby had given evidence to Thurwall’s investigation into the events surrounding Lucy Letby’s crime.
The former chief executive of Chester Hospital Countess was worried about a “illegal conviction” after Lucy Lebby’s arrest, a public investigation has heard.
Tony Chambers was said to have been concerned over a series of collapses in the baby collapse of the newborn unit after Lebby’s first detention by Cheshire Constabrary in July 2018.
Dr. Susan Gilby said it was a “very strange” argument with Chambers a few weeks after Lebby’s arrest when she joined Countess Chester as new assistant chief executive and medical director. I remembered what he said.
Gilby gives evidence to Sarwall’s investigation into events surrounding Lettby’s crime, saying that the hospital’s enforcement team was arrested on suspicion of committing multiple murders “under the clock” and attempting murder. It’s winding it up.”
She said: “What I found, and what Tony wanted to discuss with me, was his concern that despite his arrest, he actually believed that no intentional harm had occurred.
“He kept repeating the fact that no single cause was found. I told him, “It’s not that you find the cause. You have an unexpected cause and death of the patient. .
“And he was very focused on the concern that the pediatrician might have caused the nurse harm, and his concerns were unlawful conviction.
“But even if he was still arrested, he has no progress and will not be charged in the end.”
Letoby tells her boss that the consultant pediatrician fears that she will intentionally injure the baby after the unexpected deaths of two triplet boys in succession. , transferred from the unit to clinical duties.
Police were not called to investigate the issue until May 2017, so hospital executives, including the room, and subsequent medical director Ian Harvey, would entrust many independent investigations to increase mortality. I’ve chosen it.
Gilby says he spoke to Chambers and Harvey before Rettby was arrested, believing that both adiaTionians were wrong about their concerns and that no evidence of intentional harm was found in their reviews. I felt it.
She said:
“They felt that the pediatricians couldn’t accept that they weren’t the best, so when the outcome was poor, they were looking for someone to take responsibility.
“I was given the impression that there are ‘problem doctors’ who need to interact with them. ”

Justice Zarwall was portrayed at Liverpool City Hall on September 10, 2024 when an investigation into the Lucy Lebby incident was opened. Peter Byrne/PA
Gilby, a former consultant at Critical Care, said she spoke with Dr. Stephen Breeye, clinical lead for the newborn unit shortly after her appointment.
She told the investigation:
“Before it was revealed to me as clinicians, we didn’t appear that far into the conversation. As executives, don’t worry, that seems impossible.
“At one point, I think I got the exclamation point when he told me about a particular issue. He told me.
“We spent three hours on a timeline of everything that happened, both clinically and non-clinical.
“I found a clinical history of patients who were doing well, a clinical history of those who were expected to go home, and they were probably planning to go home and suddenly had a cardiopulmonary collapse.
“Even adults, in intensive care units, if you have a watch list of patients at risk of worsening or patients with vulnerable clinical conditions and when they deteriorate, they are not like flicking the switch, then the vital signs will gradually worsen.
“What Dr. Blairy was explaining to me was something I had never seen, heard or heard in clinical practice.
“For me, only one of them would have absolutely wanted to go to the bottom of what’s going on here, as a medical director or nurse director.”
Gilby later replaced Chambers, who resigned in September 2018.
Lebby, 35, from Hereford, killed two attempts with one of the victims between June and June 2015, killing seven infants and seven infants. He has issued a full life order for 15 people after being convicted in two trials at Manchester Crown Court, where he attempted. 2016.
Earlier this month, an international panel of neonatologists and pediatrics experts told reporters that bad healthcare and natural causes are reasons for collapse and death.
Their evidence was passed to the Criminal Case Review Board. This is investigating potential miscarriages of justice and the Letby legal team hopes her case will be introduced to the Court of Appeals.
The public investigation will re-meet on March 17th at Liverpool City Hall to close submissions.